Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!nntp!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Aurum Solis Throws Out U.S. Bodies and Members Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:56:22 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3d447dac.11777315@trialnews.peoplepc.com> References: <72a86573.0207262223.67c71913@posting.google.com> <912d5e95.0207280842.5e3ded9c@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 50 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:311327 On 28 Jul 2002 09:42:54 -0700, sarastro_us@yahoo.com (Aron Wolf) wrote: >Pearlz wrote in message news:... >> On 26 Jul 2002, Al Billings wrote: >> >> > So much for the Aurum Solis being different than other occult orders. >> > >> > Here is an e-mail that was sent out to order members today on the >> > internal e-mail list just before the order shutdown the list. For >> > those of us who were members here in the U.S. and who had put a lot of >> > ourselves and our magical work into the order, this is a bit numbing. >> > The e-mail and I response that I sent to the only public, official >> > order list is up at http://www.ogdoadic.com/expulsion.html. >> >> >> What brought this on? >> >> - Peggy - > > A dispute over the availability of grade papers. With the renewed >publishing of AS ritual material, the Grand Commandery feels that we >should buy order materials just like everyone else. We, on the other >hand, feel that our order dues should be sufficent for access to >materials which have been promised to us for years. > > ===== > Aron > > "When I have a little money, I buy books; > if any is left, I buy food and clothing." > -----Erasmus ****Before this gets "out of hand" let's clarify what we are talking about. If members here in the U.S. had been "promised grade papers for years"---which could have been easily photocopied, and mailed out to be put in personal binders----and they are now being refused these long-promised grade papers because this previously "initiatory" secret material is now going to be commercially published in book form for the general public as its only transmission---then we can say that the Aurum Solis has lost its credibility as an initiatory magical order-----On the other hand, if American members of the A.S. are simply complaining because they will have to pay the cover price (or jobber's lot price) for commercially published books (which might, or might not contain a few things they haven't seen before) then the A.S. Brits at headquarters are justified. Publishing is not easy or inexpensive and organizations have a right to expect their members to support their publishing efforts. Let's clarify this situation.****** Gnome d Plume