Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!HSNX.atgi.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!easynet-quince!easynet.net!easynet-post1!monolith.news.easynet.net!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Alex Sumner" From: "Alex Sumner" Newsgroups: alt.freemasonry,alt.politics,alt.conspiracy,alt.magick References: Subject: Re: Aleister Crowley Freemason Lines: 50 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:55:21 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.134.18.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ukonline.net X-Trace: monolith.news.easynet.net 1008359690 212.134.18.25 (Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:54:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:54:50 GMT Organization: [posted via UK Online] Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.freemasonry:200997 alt.politics:612662 alt.conspiracy:640210 alt.magick:280434 alt.magick added to headers (because this is a topic that would interest them!) "SnowDog" wrote in message news:u1kfobhagfq44c@corp.supernews.com... [snip] > > Then in 1910 Crowley was contacted by Theodore Reuss, the head of an > > organization based in Germany called the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). > This > > group of high-ranking Freemasons claimed to have discovered the supreme > > secret of practical magick, which was taught in its highest degrees. > > Apparently Crowley agreed, becoming a member of O.T.O. and eventually > taking > > over as head of the order when Reuss suffered a stroke in 1921. I would here interject and say that this is only one version of events: Reuss himself claimed that he had expelled Crowley from the OTO four days before Crowley publicly announced that he had taken over as the new head of the order. Reuss said he was not keen on Crowley's ideas about "Thelema". The Thelemite would counter by saying "Ah but Crowley's ideas _work_" > > > The paragraph describes the O.T.O. as an organization of high-ranking > Freemasons, not as some sort of branch of Freemasonry. Crowley was not a > Freemason to my knowledge. Although it is not stated in the original post, Crowley did in fact _claim_ to be a Mason. But he encountered Masons who disputed the validity of his initiations. See ch.72 of Crowley's autobiography, "Confessions". http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/confess/chapter72.html > In any case, what is your point? That Crowley's membership in the > Freemasons is an indicator that Freemasonry is good? That it is an > indicator that it is bad? That Crowley was good because he was a Freemason? > Or that Crowley was bad because he was a Freemason? > > -- > "What a maroon!" > -Bugs Bunny > > AS http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/